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MSFT Dynamics CRM–Forrester Research says it delivers a 243% ROI and a Payback period of 4 months…..yeah right…but read on?
We were preparing a client presentation this week and one of the slides included a reference to last year’s Forrester report on Dynamics CRM 2011 and quoted a 243% ROI. Now, having a past life as an FD, I was suddenly sceptical that any ROI calculation had to be flawed or at very best subject to scrutiny, so off I went and had a thorough read through the report.
Now, Forrester Research have created an enviable reputation since 1983 in the IT industry for their reports into every aspect of modern IT solutions and go to great length to maintain editorial ownership of their reports so delivering objective and dispassionate results. We at Company Net certainly have used their research to better understand the marketplace for our products and services and have learnt a great deal in the past.
When I read through this report rather than the more usual skim reading, I was taken aback by the sheer force of the message coming from the Dynamics CRM customers interviewed in the process. Feeding my FD instincts, there also is a very detailed breakdown of how the figures are calculated including crucially, a proper risk correction using Forrester’s own Total Economic Impact methodology.
Total Economic Impact™ (TEI) is a standard methodology developed by Forrester Research that captures and quantifies the voice of the customer relative to technology investments. In this study, we interviewed nine Microsoft customers in one-on-one discussions about each organization’s experience in implementing Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011.
Forrester’s interviews and subsequent financial analysis determined that a composite organization, based on the organizations we interviewed, would expect to experience the risk-adjusted ROI, costs, and benefits summarized in Table 1.
Summary. Overall this study concludes that the composite organization achieved a three-year NPV of U.S. $471,218 (risk-adjusted net benefits) as a result of deploying Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011 for an initial team of 50 users. The payback period was over four months with an average NPV per user of $9,424 over three years.
Factors Affecting Benefits And Costs
Table 1 illustrates the risk-adjusted financial results that would be expected by the composite organization The risk-adjusted values take into account potential uncertainty or variance that exists in estimating the costs and benefits, which produces more conservative estimates. The following factors may affect the financial results that an organisation may experience:
The pre-Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011 environment (whether there was no pre-existing CRM application or
whether another CRM tool was being used).
Level of deployment of CRM tools within the organization and integration with other business processes.
Customization required for CRM deployment and other implementation risks.
OK so having passed a test of financial probity, we can read on. The report has some fascinating insights into the decision making process and evaluation that the respondents shared during the research.
(Interviews conducted with 9 specific)… companies uncovered a number of important insights about customer organizations’ experience with Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011:
The majority of the organisations interviewed either did not have a CRM system in place or were using “home-grown” legacy software before turning to Microsoft. A number of the organizations had been using other packaged software CRM solutions in a limited capacity and decided to consolidate around Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011.
All the organisations were experiencing rapid growth and had departmental collaboration barriers that were hampering their sales processes. They needed more collaboration among sales, marketing, customer service, and delivery to get to the next level of customer engagement.
For most of the companies interviewed, familiarity and integration with Microsoft Outlook were fundamental to their choice of a CRM solution. One organization even had representatives from its sales team going into the evaluation process preferring different CRM software, but after the evaluation, the team was unanimous in choosing Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011.
These organisations’ deployment choices ranged across all options, including: on-premises, online, and partner hosted. Organizations with 10 to 100 initial users typically had an online implementation while those with 200 users or more implemented an on-premises CRM solution.
Interviewees also highlighted the cost effectiveness of the Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011 and the ease of implementation. Rollout to users was also characterized as “smooth” and “seamless,” because users were already familiar with the UI and the CRM solution was integrated with Outlook. Users on average had five hours of training although one organization recommended at least a full day of user training.
All the companies interviewed worked extensively with Microsoft partners to configure processes and roll out the project. As one customer stated, “A partner’s value shouldn’t be underestimated. They gave us a reality check on what was needed. With our experience, you should trust them [Microsoft certified partners], and you should set up your goals together.”
The organizations interviewed also noted the cost savings they would experience during each extension or customization. For instance, one organization liked that it could easily change the CRM screens using internal IT resources, avoiding the cost of outside consulting fees. Another company that had integrated Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011 with its front-end website noted that with its initial investment, it could now scale its business internationally without a commensurate scale in its costs.
While the integration with Outlook enabled faster user adoption, these organizations also set up policies and other incentives to reinforce use of the solution for customer management with their account teams.
Improved Sales Productivity
The customers interviewed talked about the challenges of implementing any new technology with sales teams who usually do not have a technical background, have multiple demands on their time, and have extensive mobility requirements. They noted that these concerns were less of an issue with Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011 due to their sales teams’ familiarity with the software, the software’s integration with Outlook, and easy navigation. Users did not have to extensively change their processes as CRM workflows were integrated into the business productivity software (such as Microsoft Outlook and SharePoint) that they were already using. Customers who had implemented other CRM tools before shifting to Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011 reported higher adoption rates. One customer’s contacts database grew by 733 percent in its first year of adoption of Microsoft Dynamics CRM. Another characterized its user adoption as “phenomenal.” At the same time, these organizations also set up communication and policies with the deployment to incentivize their employees to use the CRM software.
“Salespeople and account managers want to do things as rapidly and as flexibly as they can. Adopting [Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011] was easy from their perspective — they embraced it because of their familiarity with Outlook.” (Operations director, IT solutions service provider)
“The key on the sales team side was integration with Outlook. It was why we got such high user adoption. It’s easy. There’s integration and there’s integration, and this is really integrated.” (CEO, financial and accounting solutions firm)
Customers also noted that the benefit of the “true integration” of Microsoft Dynamics CRM functionality with their Outlook and Microsoft Office software on the desktop and on mobile devices enabled their sales teams to be more productive. Data entered in Outlook and Office was automatically captured in the CRM system, making it very easy to use. “Even if they didn’t try to use it, it would still go,” one customer observed. “The single most important feature for us was integration with Outlook,” another confirmed. One customer with a mobile workforce based on customer sites outside the company’s firewall said the ability to update data directly into Outlook improved their organization’s sales efficiency. The interviewed companies estimated sales productivity improvements from 5 percent to 20 percent.
This productivity improvement was experienced by the sales teams of the interviewed companies through improved sales reporting and better management of their customer database leading to faster and more efficient processes for sales forecasting. These companies now had a more accurate picture of their sales pipeline. With all the data in Microsoft Dynamics CRM, their sales teams could now, as one customer said, “walk in the door with real-time information on clients and better manage the relationship.” Customers also noted that their sales teams were spending less time in internal meetings and more time with their customers in the field.
Benefits.
In interviews with Microsoft customers, Forrester also identified several benefits of implementing Microsoft Dynamics
CRM 2011 in the areas of personal and process productivity. These quantified benefits include:
1) improved sales productivity because of the ease of use of the CRM software and improved opportunity/deal tracking and routing through integration with Outlook;
2) customer service productivity savings from a better UI, documented processes, a holistic view of the customer, and faster case resolution;
3) streamlined processes and operations leading to lower cost of sales;
4) shortened sales and conversion cycle and corresponding revenue gain as teams improved their collaboration
and were better connected across systems;5) marketing cost savings due to more real-time insights from better analytics; and 6) productivity savings due to better reporting tools.
“If you can scale a company up to 35% year over year and utilize Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011 to provide a common thread between your company and your customer, it truly is priceless.” (VP of marketing, healthcare IT company)
Other benefits noted by the customers but not quantified in the study include:
1) improved collaboration;
2) lower cost and effort to customize the solution for unique requirements, including extended CRM scenarios; and 3) compatibility and ease of integrations with other systems improving process efficiencies.
Forester also reported the following benefits that represent those experienced by the interviewed companies:
o Increased sales productivity of 5 percent with the ease of use of Microsoft Dynamics CRM software and integration with Outlook leading to higher adoption, improved opportunity and lead tracking and routing, and a more accurate picture of its sales pipeline. The interviewed companies improved their sales reporting and better managed their customer database and achieved faster and more efficient processes for sales forecasting.
o Customer service productivity savings from a better UI and documented processes. The composite organization avoided hiring 1.5 full time equivalents (FTE) for its 10-person customer service team even as its division grew. Customer service agents improved issue resolution as new processes were implemented, and agents had access to all the customer information they needed to resolve cases quickly and with precision.
o Streamlined processes and operations leading to lower cost of sales as Microsoft Dynamics CRM enabled the composite organization’s technical consultants to shorten time spent on the proposal process by 10 percent. The interviewed organizations saw process improvements for their account management, engineering, order taking, and project delivery teams, which led to lower operational costs and improved customer responsiveness.
o Acceleration of sales conversion cycle by 50 percent and corresponding revenue gain as teams worked better together across different business systems, processes, and geographies.
o Marketing cost savings of more than $200,000 (risk-adjusted over three years) due to more real-time insights and improved campaign management from better analytics.
o Productivity savings of 16 man-hours per month due to the better reporting tools in Microsoft Dynamics CRM with data consolidation, reporting automation, and richer dashboard capabilities. o Improved customer service delivery with quicker response times, dialog boxes, and segmented levels of customer service through insights from Microsoft Dynamics CRM.
o Improved cross-sell collaboration within sales and customer service teams by providing access to reporting tools and other collaboration software such as Microsoft SharePoint® Server 2010.
o Lower costs and effort to customize the solution to unique requirements, including extended CRM scenarios. o Ease of integration with other business technology systems, improving process efficiencies.
Costs.
The organisations we interviewed incurred the following costs
o Vendor software license fees or subscription fees.
o Professional fees paid to a Microsoft partner for implementation.
o Internal labour costs for planning, design, and implementation. o User training costs.
o On-going administrative support costs.
Summary
We can always be sceptical about statistics, especially proposed financial returns, but I would suggest that this feedback from actual customers using and benefiting from the high impact of Dynamics CRM adds a worthwhile insight, which supports and reinforces the financial analysis that Forrester have discovered.
The full report is attached for free download below and I would thoroughly recommend reading it in full if you are contemplating a new CRM system and would like clear insight into how others have successfully adopted and benefited from Dynamics CRM.
Dowload the Full Forrester Report here.. TEI of MSFT Dynamics CRM 2011
source : Forrester Consulting The Total Economic Impact Of Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011 Published May 2011
We at Company Net are regularly deploying Dynamics CRM and SharePoint business solutions and .net applications for a wide range of customers and would be delighted to hear from you contactus@company-net.com if we can help you in any way.
Andy Hamilton
MD Company Net February 2012
NEW…..Dynamics CRM 2011 for Mobile & iPad
The Microsoft Dynamics Development team constantly live up to their promise to release significant updates of the Dynamics CRM 2011 product and have recently announced the latest Q2 2012 update pack.
There are 10 key updates available as follows:
1. “Microsoft Dynamics CRM Mobile” (New Cloud Based Mobile CRM Service Subscription)
2. Cross Browser Support (IE, Safari, Firefox, and Chrome)
3. Rapid View Forms (Load forms quickly)
4. Enhanced Activity Feed (“like”, “unlike”, improved filtering)
5. Industry Solution Templates (Vertical solutions)
6. Microsoft SQL Server 2012 (Improved Performance)
7. Business Intelligence (BI) Insights with Power View (Excel workbooks)
8. Certifications (Industry Compliancy)
9. Portal Framework Enhancements (Enhanced Customer and Partner Portal)
10. Custom Workflow Activities in CRM Online (Custom Workflow: .NET Development)
Dynamics CRM Mobile
Today we want to surface the exciting new mobile CRM service which includes direct support for iOS5 on the iPad, thereby extending rich access to your Dynamics CRM system on the world’s most popular tablet.
Along with the new cross browser support also announced for the Q2 2012 update, we think this new mobile service will be a very popular addition to the Dynamics CRM system.
It is common for sales, service and marketing professionals to use a variety of devices e.g. a sales person might have both a phone and a tablet device from which they need to access their CRM data and processes. With Microsoft Dynamics CRM Mobile, each licensed mobile user can access Microsoft Dynamics CRM from up to three different mobile devices. Microsoft Dynamics CRM Mobile will also offer an offline mode on most devices* so that Microsoft Dynamics CRM can be accessed even when there is lack of Internet connectivity.
But its not just for sales & Marketing, through the power of xRM, the flexible application development framework of Microsoft Dynamics CRM, customers will also be able to easily mobilize their extended CRM applications by having seamless integration between Microsoft Dynamics CRM Mobile and their existing Microsoft Dynamics CRM environment.
And it’s not just for iPad either, Microsoft Dynamics CRM Mobile offers the user the full breadth of Microsoft Dynamics CRM functionality, including the dashboard capabilities, on the mobile device of their choice. There is no need to load multiple apps onto their device; Microsoft Dynamics CRM Mobile provides a single consistent application experience.
And for IS department ease of deployment and Data Security policy adherence Microsoft have ensured that Microsoft Dynamics CRM Mobile is centrally managed; administrators can configure the record types, forms, views, offline synchronization rules and navigation structure for the mobile application. These configurations are published only once, regardless of the range of devices that the users employ. This simplifies and streamlines the management of mobile CRM for your organization. To cater for the differing needs of functional groups within your organization, administrators can set up multiple profiles which expose role-specific data and functionality – the result is a mobile experience which is tailored and optimized for each user. Administrators also have the ability to remotely wipe devices of CRM data should a device be lost or stolen or the employee moves to a different organization.
BROWSER FLEXIBILITY
In addition to Microsoft Dynamics CRM Mobile, the Microsoft Dynamics CRM Q2 2012 service update provides the ability for end users to access the Microsoft Dynamics CRM Web Client across all modern Internet browsers on various platforms. This includes browsers such as Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, and Safari running on PC, Apple Macintosh or iPad. The list of devices and specific browser versions that will be supported is as follows:
This extends the reach of Dynamics CRM 2011 onto multiple mew browser platforms and opens the way for many organisations to seriously consider accessing the benefits of using Dynamics CRM 2011 for significantly less investment cost than competitor systems.
Sources used:
MICROSOFT DYNAMICS CRM
Roadmap
Release Preview Guide
Q2 2012 Service Update
At Company Net we are a Dynamics CRM Gold certified specialist and love working with CRM and xRM applications which are rapidly replacing legacy, expensive to maintain systems with the flexible and usable power of business solutions that are a joy to use. Join with us today contactus@company-net.com
Working for Gold!
Leena Drummond, our Business Planning Director was in fine form on Friday as she communicated the following to our staff:
“Today at Company Net, we’re over the moon! Not only did we start the day with bacon rolls (well, it is Friday), but even better we’ve just renewed our Microsoft competencies for another year!
This means that we retain our Gold status in both Customer Relationship Management and Portals & Collaboration – in fact we continue to be the only Gold CRM Partner in Scotland, and one of only handful of partners in the UK with Gold in both of these competencies. We have also retained our 3 Silver competencies in Digital Marketing, Web Development and Software Development. Having just one gold competency puts us in the top 1% of Microsoft Partners globally, ensuring that our clients know that they can always expect the very best from Company Net.
These competencies are a massive testament to the work done by everyone here and it is indeed a team effort that allows us to achieve them. In order to get the competencies, there are a number of criteria we need to meet, including having people with relevant qualifying exams, not just from a technical perspective but also in project management and sales & marketing, feedback from customers in the form of references, and achieving minimum licence and sales targets.
So, we’d would like to thank every person here for all your continued hard work.
And I think I’ll be heading off early today to celebrate with a glass of something fizzy!”
Andy Hamilton, MD of Company Net said:
“As you can see for yourself we get very excited by this internally because we know that we can deliver better results to our customers by being right up to date with Microsoft technology and have great Customer feedback from our past projects that confirms our hard work is worthwhile and rewarding. The real buzz we get is by putting our skills and experience into practice and delivering the best projects to our customers. Its fair to say that we don’t ever stop seeking to improve and the Microsoft Partner Network Gold Competency programme provides the best framework for us to ensure that we are right on track.
If you already have a top track record of achieving great things with Microsoft technologies such as .net, SharePoint 2010 or Dynamics CRM 2011 (or all 3 together !!) then get in touch with Leena, I promise she will be excited to talk to you. We want you to be part of our Gold team as we push our boundaries ever higher.
Microsoft said:
“Gold competencies demonstrate your best-in-class expertise within Microsoft’s marketplace. Earning a gold competency is evidence of the deepest, most consistent commitment to a specific, in-demand, business solution area, along with the distinction of being among only 1 per cent of Microsoft partners worldwide that have attained this outstanding degree of proficiency.”
Company Net Score Top Marks for Microsoft Customer Satisfaction
As we start the run up to Christmas, here at Company Net we’ve been reflecting on the year past and making lots of plans for the future. 2011 has been another year of delivering fabulous customer projects, and we’re really looking forward to keeping our momentum going in the New Year, working hard to maintain the great relationships we have with our existing customers and to engage new ones. So, it is with great timing that we have received our first CSAT scores for the year.
CSAT is Microsoft’s Customer Satisfaction Index, an independently-managed survey that our clients are invited to complete to give feedback on all aspects of their experience in working with Company Net. As a Microsoft Gold Partner, we are required to participate in the CSAT annually, in order to remain within the Partner network.
Customer satisfaction is at the heart of our reputation and we believe it is directly linked to our passion and enjoyment for all our projects and our total focus on maximising the end user engagement and experience on each of them.
We therfore take these results very seriously and would like to say a particular thank you to all of our clients who have commented and participated in the survey.
You are In Great Company…..
The headline result is our outstanding NSAT (net satisfaction) score of 190, out of a possible 200. Our peer average within the Microsoft Partner Network is 163.82, so we are thrilled to be able to report such a great score.
We view the NSAT as a great measure to let us know how we’re performing for our clients in general, so this gives us an idea that we’re doing something right. We also know that it’s a reflection of working with great customers and nurturing great relationships, and it’s these relationships that we’re really proud of.
Setting the bar so high means that we work even harder to exceed your expectations in every engagement that we have with our customers.
We do all our work with a carefully selected, range of brilliant and creative partners who provide specialist knowledge and specific toolsets to add to our core expertise. Our partners are a vital part of our success and we thank them heartily for their contribution, support and great “craic”.
Here’s a screenshot from our CSAT report:
Microsoft Partner CSAT Index
https://mspp.tns-online.com/MSPortal/Home/Dashboard.aspx
Screen clipping taken: 09/12/2011 15:16
The CSATs also showed us that 90% of our clients surveyed awarded us the maximum possible overall satisfaction rating and 100% said that they would recommend us to a friend or colleague who was looking for technology products, services or support. All of our clients who completed the survey stated that they felt that using Company Net, as opposed to other companies offering similar solutions, provided their organisation with competitive advantage.
2011 has seen us working across a number of industries with a range of clients, both new and long-standing, and in the private and public sectors. New clients this year have included Cairn Energy and Howden Group, while we’ve continued existing work with companies such as Disney, Tesco Bank, Miller Homes and Coca-Cola Enterprises. In the public sector, we have recently begun an engagement with sportscotland and have been able to support HMIe through its transition into Education Scotland. We’ve also been able to utilise Microsoft’s Campus Agreement to unlock value for academic institutions, having begun an implementation for Heriot-Watt University and continued to work with and support the University of Aberdeen and Stevenson College
Andy Hamilton, MD of Company Net, commented…”Our CSAT results this year are very pleasing. I believe passionately in striving for excellence in our customer service delivery as our customers all face enough pressure in delivering their own products and services. When our customers deal with Company Net for a particular project, our staff is committed to making the engagement as creative, efficient and enticing as possible. That way we can deliver solutions which ease the pressure for our customers in such uncertain times. I would like to thank all my colleagues at Company Net and all of our partners for working together to achieve this brilliant milestone, but more importantly for ensuring that our customers have received such top quality service. This is something we will build on, never resting in our quest to marry the best technology with the best customer engagement, to deliver High Impact solutions that make a difference, thank you”
We’re ending 2011 on a high, but we won’t be resting on our laurels. Onwards and upwards in 2012!
We would love to talk to you and help you decide upon a perfect solution, please contact ContactUs@company-net.com if you have any requirements for Intranets, Document Management, Collaboration, ECM, Business Process Improvement based on Microsoft SharePoint, Dynamics CRM, .net, Office 365 or CRM 2011 Online technologies.
Windows 8 has WP7 Look & Feel

Microsoft PR department is in overdrive just now with lots going on around WP7 Mango and now an early sneak look at the new Windows 8 user interface – watch the video here Here is the new “Alpha” of Windows 8 start screen which has a Metro Windows Phone inspired look, with slightly wider tiles “which are better than icons because they can show their personality”. The overall design of the operating system is colorful and clean and its apps are designed for the entire screen and really sensitive to touch. For example you only have to swipe from the left to switch between apps and then swipe from the right to access the Start button. The Snap mode has been redesigned and can now be used really easy and intuitive. The touchscreen keyboard has been replaced with a thumbs layout which is “more ergonomic” and lets you press all the letters without reaching towards the middle of the screen.
The new platform will also integrate the apps that you already have on your PC and this user interface will make it even easier to use them daily. According to Microsoft, the new version of Windows “it’s going to run on laptops, on desktops, PCs, on touch slates, […] it’s gonna run on everything”. C See Jensen Harris from Microsoft launch the official version of the truth on Windows 8 here Check out the Windows 7 Mango WP7 Mango Advert here
Company Net Contractors
We are looking to take on new contractors and have set up a new Group on Linked In called Company Net Contractors.
If you know anyone who would potentially be interested in doing .NET, SharePoint or CRM work
- Image via Wikipedia
……..then please get them to join this group and send an email with their CV, current availability and a daily rate to careers@company-net.com.
Company Net attending Convergence 2010 as English-language experts for proRM
Company Net will be represented by Sales Manager James Freel at Convergence 2010 at the Georgia World Congress Center in the heart of downtown Atlanta, Georgia from April 24-27.
Convergence is the premier worldwide Microsoft Dynamics event for experiencing the Microsoft Dynamics community in action. Convergence will offer Company Net a unique opportunity to network with peers, partners, Microsoft team members, and industry experts in order to share ideas and knowledge, as well as to learn the Microsoft strategy and future plans for our Microsoft Dynamics solution.
The full programme features nearly 400 sessions including speakers, detailed product demonstrations and hands-on learning sessions to better understand how experts such as Company Net can further leverage existing business solutions in order to tighten supply chains, deepen customer relationships, empower your workforce and sustain profitability. As an exhibitor James will also have access to the Community and Learning Center, considered the hub of Convergence. This area is designed to be a one-stop shop for networking and learning outside of conference, offering free technical support, research activities and opportunities to meet fellow users and product experts.
Company Net are attending as Bronze Sponsors for the exhibition, promoting the proRM application, a project management and resource management add-on for Dynamics CRM. For proRM, Company Net act as experts in English-speaking markets on behalf of proMX, the developers of the application. proMX, based in Nuremburg, Germany, are a successful national and international system integrator, focusing on customer-optimised and integrated business solutions for small and medium-sized companies with high quality and robust applications for mission-critical segments and processes.
Company Net Enterprise Portals Envisioning Round Table a success
Company Net hosted a round table envisioning session on Enterprise Portals at Microsoft’s offices in Edinburgh on Thursday 25th March, which proved to be a great success. In attendance was a disparate group of Company Net prospects and clients from both the private and public sectors including local authorities, logistics, entertainment, and utilities.
The informal session gave interested parties the opportunity to find out more about the business value of Microsoft® SharePoint® , the approach to implementation and migration, and the added value that SharePoint brings.
Andy Hamilton MD, Company Net presented a session on our approach to building rich, impactful and integrated solutions on the SharePoint platform and then focused more specifically on examples of SharePoint Applications which extend the capability of SharePoint for Line of Business requirements. The group were shown our Legal Mattaer Management System and our Digital Asset Management System as prime examples of such creative solutions, along with SharePoint’s rising presence as a platform for Enterprise Websites.
Tracy Hill then demonstrated further examples of SharePoint adoption worldwide. During this session, Company Net clients Turner Group and Disney each outlined their experience with regard to Sharepoint implementation, which provided excellent insight into the IT & Business process of deployment and most importantly, successful user adoption. One of the key messages for everyone to take away was the importance of ensuring that business users drive such projects. There was a lively discussion, providing the opportunity to exchange experiences, ideas and views with other organisations that were already considering, or using SharePoint, including those that have chosen to work with Company Net.
Finally, Chris Parks, Technology Partner Advisor for Microsoft outlined the features and benefits of Sharepoint 2010, due to be launched in May.Chris ran through some live demos of SharePoint 2010 and fielded numerous questions from those present allowing for excellent insight into Microsoft’s significant investment in moving the SharePoint platform on with its next release. Company Net and Microsoft will host further events throughout 2010.
We would like to thank everyone who attended and particularly John Clift & Rolf Van Atten from Disney and Diane Freckleton & Robin Glennie from Turner Group for their superb input from a client perspective.
For further information on the event please and the benefits working with Company Net, please contact Tracy Hill on tracy.hill@company-net.com or 0131 559 7500
Company Net Website on Top SharePoint
We are very pleased that our new website was accepted onto the Top SharePoint list today.
We have extended our approach to ensure AA accessibility and ensure a high degree of xHTML compliance whilst making sure that site performance is maximised. We are practicing what we preach and showcasing what is very achievable for SharePoint Internet sites. We have received great design input from our partners Red Dress Creative and Shaw Marketing and Design and combined their initiatives into our own final design for the site.
We are actively looking for many more SharePoint Website projects and believe that if you currently use SharePoint for your internal portal that there are significant benefits to be achieved by also puting your website on this platform.
These benefits include:
- Simplified content management requiring no coding experience
- Business users own and manage their content from end to end
- Single interface for managing intranet and extranet, reducing training requirement for staff
- Familiar Microsoft Office interface
- No reliance on third party suppliers to maintain company website
- Improved customer interaction through SharePoint discussion forum and blog capabilities
If you are a Microsoft Gold Partner then we are offering knowledge and skills transfer whilst building or migrating your own site to SharePoint. You can see more details here on the Partner Channel Builder Portal
Galliford Try chooses Company Net for Website Build
Building on Company Net’s experience in the construction industry, Company Net has been appointed by Galliford Try to redevelop its Galliford Try Homes web site. We are delighted to be involved in this prestigious project.
Developing around 3,000 homes per year, in the South of England Galliford Try Homes is best known to consumers for homebuilding brands including Linden Homes, Stamford Homes and Midas Homes. In Scotland they also own Morrison Construction.
With numerous acquisitions, the company is keen to consolidate it’s brand position and ensure the websites of group companies are reflective of its leading market position and more able to connect with prospective customers.
The new site will be built on Sitecore’s .NET CMS platform, and will benefit from the rich variety of Content Management capabilities which this brings.
Sitecore News
Sitecore have just announced the launch of the new Online Marketing Suite on the 1st of October. This is a very exciting addition to the CMS product and allows for extremely good website analytics with categorisation and connectivity of visitor leads through to internal systems such as Dynamics CRM. We had the privilege of a demo of the new system at Microsoft World Partner Conference from none other than UK MD, Simon Bartolo and were very impressed indeed. We have been invited to the launch in London and will report back on the new features in more detail soon.
Company Net is an accredited Sitecore partner and proud to be building first class websites on this excellent .net CMS platform
Philip Hogg Joins Company Net’s Panel of Experts
Company Net is delighted to welcome Philip Hogg to its Panel of Experts.
Philip is an experienced and respected marketer, and has just set up his own consulting firm pHc. Philip’s expertise centres around Customer Experience Management (CXM), Customer Relationship Management (CRM) and Usability.
Philip brings years of pragmatic experience in these fields, having experienced them both as a purchaser and supplier of the services.
You can read more about Philip’s role on Company Net’s Panel of Experts, and Company Net’s philosophy behind selecting partners on our blog.
Partnership Case Study – “Philip Hogg joins Company Net Panel of Experts”
We place great emphasis on our Partnerships and seek out the best to add business acumen and experience to our portfolio of services and solutions. Finding people who have a passion for business, a flair for creativity with a focus on technology solutions and a capacity to deliver, is a task we undertake readily and persistently. The reward is the opportunity to engage with some of the best business professionals we can find, in a variety of specialist fields.
All too often, the reality is that Companies try to do too much themselves, whilst believing they can stretch beyond their capabilities without impacting their clients. This leads, at best to compromising their solutions and at worst, failing to deliver adequately.
Combining keyskills allows for an unlimited potential to extend your solutions into your market place and provide your clients with the maximum value when purchasing your services. It carrys well beyond solid thought leadership onto providing a “Best of Breed” solution that provides your customers with exactly what they need.
Partnership Case Study
We recently engaged with a very experienced and respected Marketing Consultant, Philip Hogg. This opportunity came about as the timing was perfect for both of us and during a couple of conversations we easily realised that our passions and beliefs were very closely aligned in our joint fields. This has to be the root of all good business partnership and fundamental to its success.
I welcome Philip Hogg to our Panel of Experts and look forward to working with him on our projects. As we deliver high quality business consultancy to our customers, we are further strengthened by Philip’s presence.
About Phillip
For nearly 10 years Philip Hogg was Marketing Director for Miller Homes, the UK’s largest privately owned house builder . During this period Miller grew from the 26th to the 6thlargest housebuilder in the UK and was renowned for its approach to marketing, customer satisfaction and innovation.
Miller Homes lead the housebuilding industry in many aspects, in particular with its approach to e-marketing and pioneered 3 category leading websites – www.millerhomes.co.uk, www.mymillerhome.com and www.mymillerstreet.co.uk, these websites went on to become multi award winning and more importantly generated demonstrable business value.
The Partnership
Company Net was the technology partner who built these websites, engineered the integration with other enterprise systems and contributed significantly to the design and functionality, and success.
Philip has now set up a new consulting company – pHc – and the opportunity has arisen for continued collaboration with Company Net. The prize for both parties is to harness Philip’s marketing and user-oriented skills along with Company Net’s technical excellence and offer this package to other organisations.
About pHc
A FORMULA FOR SUCCESS
We’re specialists. Specialists in understanding.
By really understanding how people think and act we can develop appropriate strategies and help create successful products. We prod and poke, ask lots of questions, study how people behave and try not to jump to conclusions. Then after all of this, we create strategies and solutions.
We’re particularly skilled and passionate about Customer Experience Management (CXM), which is reckoned to be the next competitive battleground as product differentiation becomes more difficult and has a decreasing lifespan. We have specialist research skills and techniques that allow us to observe and measure the complete interface between customer/user and the brand – each interaction will create a customer emotion and an attitude that needs to be understood and managed.
This neatly links into another area where we are experienced – CRM– Customer Relationship Management. Often wrongly thought of as just software systems, when in fact it should be a cultural and holistic way of doing business. We help organisations to get maximum value from their CRMsystems by looking at how they interface with other systems and also how they use them – often the barriers to utilisation are nothing to do with the technology….
Usability and UI – User Interfaces– is the next area that we are passionate about. One of the driving philosophies behind the successful Miller websites was to make the sites intuitive and easy to use. The phrases “what would the user want” and “how would the user think” were key to making them a success. This philosophy is sadly missing from many websites and IT products; technically they may be excellent, but from a users perspective all too often they mystify, confuse and de-motivate.
Many of the above elements come together in the form of e-marketing. From website design, search engine optimisation, social, email and mobile marketing there is a common element – thinking and understanding how customers behave and then engineering solutions that are appropriate, relevant and business effective.
There is a science to what we do.
Balancing brands and customers – the Company Net and pHc way.
Strike value into your business and see the rewards of mutual thinking, collaboration and joint effort be rewarded in all that you do.
Another Microsoft Certified Professional Developer – 50 Up!
Well done to Duncan King, who today became a Microsoft Certified Professional Developer. Duncan passed the final exam required to complete the MCPD certification series, with flying colours.
Company Net’s complement of Microsoft Certified Professionals currently stands at 12, with 50 separate certifications shared across the following accredited paths:
- Microsoft Certified Solution Developer (MCSD)
- Microsoft Certified Applications Developer (MCAD)
- Microsoft Certified Professional Developer (MCPD)
- Microsoft Certified Professional in Systems Integration (MCPSI)
- Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS)
- Microsoft Certified Product Specialist (MCPS)
- Microsoft Certified System Engineer (MCSE)
- Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator (MCSA)
- Microsoft Certified Network Product Specialist (MCNPS)
- Microsoft Certified IT Professional (MCITP)
- Microsoft Certified Solution Provider (MCSP)
- Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist (MBSS)
What is SharePoint? A definition for the users…
In a recent strategy session with one of our partners, 30 seconds into our presentation on SharePoint, the question came, “What IS SharePoint”?
It is the sort of question that usually gets answered with words like intranet, extranet, internet, portal, document management, search, content management and development platform. Not very definitive or easy to understand for most people.
So we set about coming up with a clearer answer, aimed firmly at the end users.
SharePoint is a communication and collaboration platform. It fully integrates with your Microsoft Office applications and uses web technology to allow your Company’s employees, suppliers and customers to significantly improve how they find and share knowledge, information and data. It is where you work together every day.
Once you have this definition in place it is much easier to associate the various elements of the SharePoint toolkit with the real world of end users as follows :
Intranet – A shared web environment for internal employees
Extrantet – A shared web environment for authorised external users such as suppliers and authorised customers
Internet - Web access to your company for anonymous customers
Portal – An internal website that allows everyone in the company to publish information and communicate with each other
Document Management- Keeping documents, images, videos, in fact any sort of data, well organised and ordered so that everyon has the correct version to work on.
Enterprise search – A vastly improved way of being able to find the information you need to do your job more easily.
Development Platform- SharePoint comes with a very substantial toolkit built in, and is readily customisable, but it does not end there, it is also capable of being built upon by experts to provide highly tailored , business specific solutions.
Here is a nice video doing the rounds that shows SharePoint in action with some, but not all, of these features:
Hope that gives some clarity to what we mean when we talk about SharePoint.
Who is the Villan, the BBC or BSkyB …..or the ECB?
My colleague Howie has posted some thought provoking comments in his blog here on his impression of James Murdock’s views on the BBC in the MacTaggart lecture, and more specifically on the increasing dominance of Sky Sport’s coverage of National Sporting events such as The Ashes.
I think there are some interesting issues here.
First of all, I listened to Mr Murdock’s entire speech. I found it to be well presented and unrelenting in its attack on our taxpayer funded, over regulated, media provision in the UK. I particularly agreed with his customer centric remarks, the respect for customer choice to decide for themselves what they want to do, rather than being fed a pre-prescribed diet and expected to follow it.
Secondly, the imbalance that the BBC creates in this regulated market maybe had a place in the analogue world. But in the digital world this imbalance creates a massive strain on the ability of every other media provider to be able to profitably invest in competitive media products and services. There is nothing else akin to the BBC Charter in media world. It is therefore by definition an anomaly, and like all anomalies it creates difficulty at some level. Today the biggest difficulty is that tax payer owned news and media content is distributed free at the point of consumption to everyone in the UK.
Thirdly, as a businessman, I fully understand the extent of the problem. How can anyone compete with a separately funded, stat
e controlled enterprise? The BBC is completely immune to the current downturn in the economy. There is no reduction in our licence fee to accommodate the financial pain that the country is facing. By definition, as all other “competitors” are required to gain revenue from dwindling resources, the BBC simply gets stronger; its £4.6bn annual revenue safe and secure and supplemented by hoards of commercial ventures such as world-wide syndication of its programmes, numerous programme specific magazines sold commercially and of course it’s cross programme advertising.
In my view there is nothing wrong in principle with having variety like the BBC, Commercial TV and Subscription TV all side by side. However when you add into the mix, the over regulation and protectionism of the regulator Ofcom, then you create an impossible situation with pretty dire consequences. One such issue of consequence is the free BBC website. Richly imbued with access to its rich archive of taxpayer paid media content, the BBC has an immensely artificial advantage over every other media provider in the country. It effectively eliminates the capacity of competitive media providers to ever be able to earn revenue from on-line versions of their creative and news content. With the younger generation increasingly failing to buy newsprint, then the ultimate outcome is the disappearance of newsprint and its corresponding online versions within a relatively short period of time. I touched on this in my previous blog.
Mr Murdock’s little quoted final words were “The only reliable, durable and perpetual guarantor of independence is profit” and I say hear hear to that.
Free to Air Sports Coverage
In a consumer age we have every right to make our choices – including paying for subscription TV or not, but as with all choices we have to bear the consequences of making the choice. The consequence may be not being able to see the cricket. It’s not that it’s not available for you to see, but you have chosen not to pay for it. That surely is fair enough.
So then, perhaps a quick look at the rights holder, in this case the ECB and at the players who now earn much more in cricket than they ever did before, might be more appropriate. The ECB generated £300m in its 5 year deal with Sky. Commenting on the BBC’s decision not to bid at all for the rights, here’s what a BBC spokesperson said, as the Guardian reported, at the time
“We have always said that any bid for live test cricket is subject to value for money and ability to schedule. In our view neither of these criteria were met,” she added.
“We have consistently argued that not having cricket as a listed event puts it out of reach of all terrestrial broadcasters. This is the ECB’s choice and they are entitled to it. It is absurd to blame the BBC for this outcome.”
The “listed event” reference at the heart of the BBC’s argument is a fair one I think, the 1996 Broadcasting Act provided an A & B list of protected sporting events. For whatever reason, in the 1998 list, Cricket was “demoted” into the B list by the Government, meaning that the only requirement was to ensure that there were highlights transmitted on a terrestrial channel. This decision is at the heart of the problem, not the fact that Sky has more ability to invest higher amounts to broadcast sport than the publicly funded BBC
The vast sums being poured into sport for media rights, that Howie mentions have their advantages too. Sky money dragged English football out of the horrendous pit it was in at the end of the 80′s. Football violence was rife, stadiums were dilapidated and certainly not fit for families and the only football matches we ever saw on TV were the Match of the Day highlights, The Home Internationals and the odd English International (as long as it was not too far away!)
Sky’s sports coverage today is superb and with HD and Surround Sound the viewing experience is second to none. The Premiership “Product” has to be right up there with the best sporting events in the world. It’s arguably the best football league on the world – just look at Premiership club success in Europe on an increasingly regular basis.
Perhaps the Sky money is now being invested to make similar improvements to the ability of English Cricket to improve the product. Not being a cricket fan, I am much more minded to watch, as I did the Ashes this year, when there is a chance of them winning. The “it’s the taking part that counts” attitude has been far too long embedded in cricket and now at last we are starting to compete, maybe it’s uncomfortable to accept, but the Sky investment in the ECB may be making the difference already.
So, my friendly advice is enjoy the Cricket ….go get a subscription to Sky to help pay their £300m back or beware that the same outcome that the SPL’s disastrous run in with Sky, had for Scottish Football, may happen to Cricket if the £300m does not turn out to be a good investment.
Free News – Do you get it?
Colin and Keith have some interesting things to say about the future of newspapers and in particular the influence of the “free” BBC website in the debate.
Almost all the business portals we create for customers have rss news feeds added, mostly from the BBC. Companies are following on from the on line revolution that’s going on in our personal lives with regard to where we get our news from.
We have all the technology now to get the information we want, as soon as it happens and filter it down to exactly what we want to see. This also goes for our daily diet of news which is now presenting huge problems for the traditional content providers i.e the national newspapers.
I had a meeting not so long ago with 2 Local Newspaper Executives who were quite clear and agreed between them that the newspaper industry would be finished within a generation. What was most shocking to me was their almost complete acceptance that there was nothing they could do! I guess some would say it will be no bad thing if the papers disappear, but be careful what you wish for.
The BBC has a Charter to ensure it is impartial. It’s website therefore is expected to reflect this impartiality and deliver us the facts as they occur. What would the future look like if this was the main source of news once the national newspapers disappeared. Sure it would be free or paid for by licence fee in the UK, but would that be good enough?
Some one has to pay, right? Murdock’s News International have made the initial running, aggressively and maybe not so wisely. Well if not and the future that is being touted contains only free news, as no-one wants to pay for it other than by watching adverts, then inevitably we will end up loosing something of the rich journalistic flavours and spins that are smeared on top of our printed press news articles. Newspapers are not just about news, they convey opinion and challenge us to respond.
Perhaps opinions are now more readily and accurately formed in the peer to peer world of social networking with more purity. In business today we see the immense benefit of collaboration amongst workers to ach

- Image by Getty Images via Daylife
ieve so much more, perhaps this collaboration mentality will really drive the opinions of the future and we leave behind the closeted partisan political views of the traditional press. Or do the newspapers somehow find the means to invent a way to charge for their content in an acceptable way and simply move 100% on line to deliver their output and maintain their influence. Direct, targeted, advertising must surely pay a part as the old order of paying for blunt adverts driven by circulation and demographic price models gives way.
Lets find a way to ensure that the future of news is not just about impartial facts and that it contains at least some of the rich heritage of our national press with our love / hate relationship at least partially in tact.
Museums Galleries Scotland Moves to Sharepoint
Museums Galleries Scotland is the membership body for over 340 museums and galleries throughout Scotland.
MGS is a long-standing customer of Company Net, allowing both organisations to benefit from a trusted partnership. This provides a great environment for Company Net to assist MGS’s business by providing strategic expertise to help MGS roadmap and then deliver technical solutions.
The latest phase, which is now underway, will involve Company Net delivering a usable, feature-rich Sharepoint 2007 solution to MGS. Initially, the focus will be on the provision of work areas, project collaboration and document management.
The subsequent phase is then expected to integrate the Sharepoint instance with MGS’s Microsoft Dynamics CRM solution, which was implemented by Company Net earlier this year.
SharePoint – Affordable AA Compliance for your Internet Site
Here are a few insights from Steven Gardner our Senior Technical Architect on the solution for achieving AA Compliance when using SharePoint for your website.
To start with a little bit about compliance:
Standards compliance is the adherence of a websites HTML and CSS markup to W3C standards. Over the past couple of years making websites standards compliant has become a major driver in the development of public facing websites, why? In the not too distant past, few websites were developed to any form of standard but instead targeted a particular browser as their preferred display medium. Targeting a particular browser had the effect that when a user viewed a website with a different browser, then at best the user suffered a less than optimal browsing experience but in the worst cases were completely unable to view the website. As browser market share has become more distributed, from a business perspective, denying potential customer’s access to your website just because of the browser they use is simply throwing sales away!
The Problem
For web standards compliance, there are a number of fundamental issues which have to be addressed:
- Lack of DOCTYPE
- Invalid HTML markup
- Table based layouts
- HTML containing custom attributes
- Over reliance on JavaScript for basic functions
- Use of inline CSS styles
The Solution
In partnership with Microsoft, HiSoftware developed the Accessibility Toolkit for SharePoint 2.0 (AKS). The toolkit offers a number of new features to help meet Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0 Priority 1 and 2 checkpoints (WCAG 1.0 AA) and the newest WCAG 2.0 AA Candidate Recommendation while significantly reducing the time, knowledge and effort required to implement such a website.
Along with developing the AKS, HiSoftware have also developed a direct replacement for the default text editor within SharePoint called Accessible Rich Text Editor(aRTE). aRTE allows a user to edit content in a Word like editor but crucially ensuring that the output is XHTML compliant and accessible.
Steven’s White Paper on the full topic is available for download below:
Project Scotland was the Top SharePoint Internet Site in the UK (for a while)
We were happy that our site built for Project Scotland rose up to top spot for a couple of weeks.
In the meantime we have been finalising our own site on MOSS 2007
Here is a quick preview:

Company Net Website
Other than good design our focus has also been on AA accessibility and xHTML compliance using HiSoftware tools and achieving excellent optimisation resulting in a nice reduction in overall footprint.

Answering the question that SharePoint has a large footprint
We will shortly be issuing a White paper to share the approach to Accessibility and Optimisation which we believe are fundamental to seeing SharePoint websites continue to flourish.
Sitecore Launch for HMIe
Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Education (HMIe) has just launched a new mini-site, HMIe Performs. The site provides HMIe with a vehicle to share more widely and frequently its performance against its objectives and targets.
Developed by Company Net on the Sitecore web content management platform, the project demonstrated how effective Sitecore is for producing Accessible web sites which are W3C compliant in xHTML and CSS.
Top SharePoint Site Admission for Project Scotland
We were very pleased to have our site for Project Scotland accepted into the Top Internet Sites website today. See what you think and place your vote.

With creative design supplied by The Union and Dynamics CRM functionality surfacing through SharePoint and InfoPath by Company Net the end result has been very effective in driving this magnificent Scottish Charity’s goal of providing volunteering opportunities to 16-25 year olds in Scotland.
Accessibility
We will shortly be addressing the issue of accessibility in SharePoint websites and sharing our experience of overcoming the challenges facing developers when needing to produce xHTML compliant websites using SharePoint. The recently launched Hisoft Rich Text Editor, provides an advanced toolkit to allow the delivery of xHTML compliance with new found ease, including for example compliant Flash Movies. We are currently testing an AA compliant version of the Project Scotland website with excellent results and performance improvements which we will re-launch shortly. What’s important here is that we have been able to retro design the exiting site in a very short period of time. Along with great creative design capability, the accessibility issue is essential to overcome and we have taken the decision to showcase this in our own new website which has had design input from one of our Creative Partners Digital Face and Shaw and is shortly due for release.
We believe there is a huge opportunity for Creative Design Agencies to work with partners to devise and design top value websites for clients. Build upon your client’s existing investment in SharePoint without compromising any creativity and providing the client with a perfect combination of SharePoint’s impressive functionality for ECM, Internal Portals, Document Management, Search and Collaboration with public facing sites that are visually stunning, compliant and functional, with the essential ability to be administered with familiar experience internally.
The ball is rolling……time to get on board
See Some Top Internet Facing SharePoint Sites
If you are starting to think about using MOSS for your Internet facing Website but are worried the design may be too “boxy” and stuffy with SharePoint the its really worth a vist to look around this site where you will find some great examples of Internet Facing SharePoint.
At Company Net, we have also had some great Microsoft feedback from Tara Hellier for our Project Scotland solution here, SharePoint Server 2007 – Customising the Look and Feel of Sites. Its great to be recognised in this way, thanks Tara, you know what you are talking about
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And with SharePoint 2010 heading towards us fast, there is no better time to be asking your partners to show you the solution. Here’s some more, a sneak preview of SharePoint 2010
My other SharePoint site is a Ferrari
You bet, we are right now in the final steps of re-launching our own website on SharePoint 2007. Its been a very quick process for the lads and hot on the heals of the new Ferrari website we couldn’t be in better company. We already have a great example of one our own clients, Project Scotland, who blazed the trail with SharePoint last year and put immense design and marketing effort into this Award Winning site which really blows away the misconception that these sites are restrictive for designers.
We have had some great design input ourselves from our good buddies at Digital Face and also some excellent content copyrighting form our Flare (our new Joint Venture Creative Digital Design House – more about this exciting news later) partners Shaw Design.
We practice what we preach here and using dedicated partners to infuse our work with expert skills and creativity to add to our own extensive capability is what we are about.
Our approach is to work in partnership with our customers to envisage, design and deploy, high impact, business value solutions, whilst ensuring knowledge & skills transfer to secure maximum self sufficiency for lifetime enhancements and support

SharePoint at WPC 2009
Hang on there, does sharepoint really work for websites, well yes. Here’s a shot from one of the many presentations at WPC 2009
It is a fact that allot of customers already using sharepoint for their internal needs such as Portals, Enterprise Search, Content Management and Document Management etc., do not know that the toolkit and development platform they are already invested in can provide their website also. By adding an extra licence from Microsoft, you unlock yet more potential. Working with a trusted advisor to guide you through to a solution by architecting and designing your SharePoint website, will further leverage your existing in-house skills which you have already developed. That’s ensuring productivity and real return on your employees skills and experience already.
So tap into that SharePoint investment you have made already and come and investigate the exciting new opprtunities to signioficnatly enhance and update your web presence with SharePoint 2007 and of course SharePoint 2010.
- SharePoint at WPC
- SharePoint at WPC 2009
We have had the sneak preview of SharePoint 2010 at WPC and it raises the bar even higher with an even better user interface and lots more functionality and integration tools, so watch this space. We will be going to Las Vagas in October, just before the official launch and will bring you back all the information then.
Company Net at Microsoft Worldwide Partner Conference
Company Net has just returned from Microsoft’s annual WPC event for partners.
It was a genuinely inspiring experience, setting out Microsoft’s take on managing through the global economic “reset” and providing clear strategic direction to the assembled partners. And of course, Microsoft took the opportunity to launch its new Microsoft Partner Network.
From Company Net’s perspective, WPC was a tremendously positive experience, re-affirming a number of the strategic “big bets” which it has already positioned itself for.
You can read more on Howie’s Blog.
Turner and Co. Launches GROUPnet Intranet Portal on Sharepoint
A privately-controlled group of autonomous companies, Turner & Co. is engaged in the supply and servicing of equipment, as well as the provision of comprehensive support services. It employs over 2,400 staff worldwide, across a number of subsidiary companies.
Company Net were engaged by Turner to develop an Intranet solution built on Sharepoint 2007, to better facilitate the storage and sharing of information throughout the organisation.
The Intranet was launched on time and to budget on 30th June – another great demonstration of what can be achieved by striking up a joint partnership between customer and supplier.
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